It is the strangest thing
Moderator: MalcolmV8
It is the strangest thing
When my Bronco II is cold it will start. When It has been run for a while the starter won't turn it over. I can hear the starter engaging. I can't imagine it is the solenoid. Perhaps the starter being so close to the headers (and getting too hot)? All I get is the clicking noise like there's not enough juice going to the starter.
Paul
Paul
'88 Bronco II 4x4, 302, C4, Edelbrock 600, Mild Cam
'93 Ranger XLT 4x4 4.0 5sp 210k
'93 Ranger XLT 4x4 4.0 5sp 210k
Re: It is the strangest thing
Sounds to me like the starter is bad. Did you load test your battery? I would do a load test on the battery and check how much the starter is drawing when you start it. I doubt its the selinoid. When it wont turn over, cross the seliniod with a screw driver and see what it does. That will bypass that, so if that is the problem it should turn over. But sounds like the starter to me.
1986 Ranger with 1990 5.0 HO roller motor
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
Re: It is the strangest thing
If it turns over just fine cold but won't hot all the time it is your starter. GM's were bad about that back in the day, the headers would rap right around the starter and if the starter would just start to go bad the heat would kill it.
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85 Ranger 5.0, GTP Engine, Carbed, AOD, 7.5 3:45 rear gear(for now)
77 Mustang II 302, C4, 8" rearend 3:00 gears, 4 point roll bar
73 Mustang Convertible, Bone Stock, 48,000 original miles
91 F-250 5.8W(really needs a 460) 4X4
2000 Mustang 3.8 V6, Bone Stock
2011 Ford Fusion (Momma's hot rod)
85 Ranger 5.0, GTP Engine, Carbed, AOD, 7.5 3:45 rear gear(for now)
77 Mustang II 302, C4, 8" rearend 3:00 gears, 4 point roll bar
73 Mustang Convertible, Bone Stock, 48,000 original miles
91 F-250 5.8W(really needs a 460) 4X4
2000 Mustang 3.8 V6, Bone Stock
2011 Ford Fusion (Momma's hot rod)
Re: It is the strangest thing
I think that they have starter blankets now to try to help this situation.
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Re: It is the strangest thing
Hey Paul,
The stock Explorer header (tube type) come wraped with the silver type foil, the later cast iron ones actually have a heat sheild that bolts to the exhaust manifold down by the starter.
Mac - Back to all red Rangers again, ditched that blue one.
The stock Explorer header (tube type) come wraped with the silver type foil, the later cast iron ones actually have a heat sheild that bolts to the exhaust manifold down by the starter.
Mac - Back to all red Rangers again, ditched that blue one.
'66'Ranchero 302/5 speed
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Re: It is the strangest thing
this a common problem with 302's with headers close it heats the starter up than it sticks I had that problem with my '93 when I bought it. I bought a new starter from and it fixed my problem for now
'93 ranger ext cab 5.0L HO lorider
Re: It is the strangest thing
Jeez,
It's a brand new starter! If I keep having problems, I'll have to get one of those low profile starters.
Just more work. Either I have to pull back the tranny or loosen the header just to get the starter out! Know how much work it is to pull a tranny back on a 4x4?
I got some heat tape and I'll try that first. The starter is only about 1/4" from where the header tubes go into the collector.
Paul
It's a brand new starter! If I keep having problems, I'll have to get one of those low profile starters.
Just more work. Either I have to pull back the tranny or loosen the header just to get the starter out! Know how much work it is to pull a tranny back on a 4x4?
I got some heat tape and I'll try that first. The starter is only about 1/4" from where the header tubes go into the collector.
Paul
'88 Bronco II 4x4, 302, C4, Edelbrock 600, Mild Cam
'93 Ranger XLT 4x4 4.0 5sp 210k
'93 Ranger XLT 4x4 4.0 5sp 210k
Re: It is the strangest thing
Thats what I have, a high torque small starter. Got mine off E-Bay allot cheaper than parts store. Never had a problem sence.
1986 Ranger with 1990 5.0 HO roller motor
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
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Re: It is the strangest thing
a '93 mustang starter is smaller then the older ones.
'93 ranger ext cab 5.0L HO lorider
Re: It is the strangest thing
I just had a problem with mine this weekend. It just clicked. After a few clicks it worked fine. Never gave me another problem all weekend.
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Re: It is the strangest thing
Hey Paul,
If you have to pull that trans, did you ever fix that flex-plate problem? Nail two birds with one stone. Weather finially going to get nice. I fixed that Avatar you were complaining about. Remember this little gem?
Dave
If you have to pull that trans, did you ever fix that flex-plate problem? Nail two birds with one stone. Weather finially going to get nice. I fixed that Avatar you were complaining about. Remember this little gem?
Dave
'66'Ranchero 302/5 speed
2015 Stage 3 Roush - rated at 670 hp
2000 Ext Cab/4 door swap project
2000 Ext Cab/4 door, Summer beater
2000 Ext Cab/4 door, Winter beater
1969 Fairlane Cobra in Barn, just waiting
2015 Stage 3 Roush - rated at 670 hp
2000 Ext Cab/4 door swap project
2000 Ext Cab/4 door, Summer beater
2000 Ext Cab/4 door, Winter beater
1969 Fairlane Cobra in Barn, just waiting